All posts by OnePunchSaitama

Noo please no. Blast isn't Orochi, he was alive when Orochi became a monster and even defeated Elder centipede around that time.

yea he isn't, in one of the omake Mumen is shown to be Saitama's classmate. So this theory isn't much different from Saitama being actual Blast.

@APersonWithTime

I do understand what vector is, What i don't understand is how you are correlating this to magnitude? Accelerator can only change directions. Your statement didn't talk of Magnitude, even if we take like you intend Vector you would still fall short. He has canned a multiversal attack as i said before, He blocked othinus's strike.

In short of what i recall from LNs of Toaru universe, Accelerator does nifty little trick called Vector transform which is done only on "unit Vector" times the magnitude. So to answer your question he doesn't need to calculate magnitude as stated before, he needs to calculate unit vectors of entities in the room. In this case they are your gravity, molecule of airs and so on.

@Kim

I see,

"btw saitama cant kill him self his sustainibility is 100%"

You did say this?

Could you elaborate on what you meant by it than?

@APersonwithTime

Accelerator doesnt do anything to the "magnitudes". He has to figure out the Vectors for all possible quantities. Every molecule, Gravity, Electromagnetic force and so on.

Your statement:

""Since it only reverses the vectors that are coming towards him, any vector that comes towards his barrier and pulls away at the exact moment before hitting its field will go towards Accelerator."

vector reversal doesn't require "magnitude change, only the vector calculation(direction). And you cannot exclude Saitama's punch as a new unknown vector.

@Kim Gerin Handa

Dont you think its going too far? Or is this first time you met someone civilly disagreeing with you? Are you saying you never had disagreements, never took another person's view point into consideration when they were different from your own?

I get it, you are upset about Mob, but that doesn't mean you have to blot the forum with Mob hysteria.

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So you are saying saitama's body is stronger than his punch? one is less limitless than other?

Well "changing" magnitude doesn't throws accelerator off, its been tried several times by different characters using different substance(electricity/magnetic iron by misaka, Antimatter by No.2 etc) Accelerator must calculate "directions" or the vector component of all those mentioned factors like Gravity etc which theoretically cannot be "infinite" no matter the magnitude. To further expand on it he is able to reflect attacks of a "magic god" othinus before she figures out his trick.

Which of the brother had Physical one? Estarossa/Mael? Well ideally the drawback is there like you said but it should work for first few surprise use. After all Saitama isn't clairvoyant.

wait so you are saying that limitless being like saitama will remain unfazed by his own punch?

Interesting, i was actually thinking he may have problems when he faces accelerator or meliodas.

His power willn't work against their vector reversal. So they could have a tie in

Only hero association fight will be there in Season-3. Though he may come in Tatsumaki's memory/recollection of blast.

Except i said the impossibility was when Saitama did the "hits" or the deed himself. That's not the case if someone could redirect his fist.

Or "Vectors". Full counters could work too.

Actually @tronalan is on the right track, if somehow Saitama were to use his fist against himself he could kill himself. You just have to think of characters who can do that.

Actually @tronalan is on the right track, if somehow Saitama were to use his fist against himself he could kill himself. You just have to think of characters who can do that.

Than yes if somehow you can create such unrealistic situation of Saitama being in water despite all that "power" you could kill him.

@Apersonwithtime

But you didn't make a thread as i suggested. And two no the thread was never "decided" with complete consensus, I never got to showcase the proof nor did you gave any proof for otherwise. It was just open discussion at best which could have concluded any way.

If you want to debate Mob, i will repeat my advise make the thread and invite the other involved parties rather than simply pouring info over this thread. Perhaps there maybe others who may want to join and back your claims as well.

How does that "kill" him? He survived far catastrophic "space", his body survives relativistic speeds etc just to name a few, Drwoning is the last thing which could get him assuming he simply escapes to air by ouright jumping.

@APersonwithTime

Why not, make a thread and let's discuss this.

And any "comparison" made in here are actually valid here considering "One" is the author of both.

Well thread achieved its purpose and i don't see any reason for it to continue. Go ahead ping them.

@Kim Gerin Harada

Look bro , I am not saying you said anything like you are claiming. What i said in my previous stanza was that it would be better if Mob and Saitama had an actual confrontation to make some serious stand on it.

It's a genuine request to atleast read the reply completely before writing like this. Or else what's the point of the forum if you are unwilling to read the reply?

No they don't. At least when it comes to Mob's case there is also this unique quality of "Tracing Esper abilities/Even Experience of using that technique to Zenith". Mob can copy any esper to utmost perfection. What Tatsumaki is gonna face is an Esper who doesn't has emotions restraining his abilities, can copy her abilities, has no limits to "esper power", can drain her powers, cannot die/be killed to name a few.

Defending the point of Experience isn't shitty emotion. This is:

"AND WILL BE ABLE TO NOTICE HOW YOUR BELOVED FUCKING MOB CAN HARM HER"

"ok shhshshshshsAhswhwhsiwehssh jwjwiwheueheisbeisjs why dont yalll jist come at me once and rip my fucking face off .......haters"

"ugghhh........sigh.....LORD........this mannn is a bunn AHEM ........       *clears throat* *tightens the tie*"

It's not needed, why are you spamming stuff like this. Than you are going ahead talking about "experience" even when the importance of sub conscious was explained with respect to an Esper. Their abilities stem from Sub Conscious, but you ignore all of it.

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You just realized about psykos and Tatsumaki, It's my bad putting all that truck load of info which didn't concern you. Honestly i take it all back, forget this discussion.

@Kim Gerin Harada

You know how to read, than tell me where i said Mob won against Saitama? Being in same league doesn't mean he would win. I would actually like a confrontation between the two to even say the result. I am simply saying the two are in "similar position" in their respective franchise and Saitama may have upper hand. The Difficulty that Saitama would face while fighting Mob is the possibility that Mob can absorb his energy.

And I dont think you are in any position to make that actual comparison between OPM and Mob psycho, you are just playing bluff with me even though i have been trying to explain what has been said in the series(Mob Psycho) from the start. Just like limiter concept, Author One has expanded on what i have been talking about here. You are simply changing prerogative again and again by comparing it to Experience, Emotion and your ideals which aren't needed in the discussion. I am simply stating what's been said in Mob Psycho and How Mob has that monstrous power, Nothing more.

What's make this even more frustrating is the fact you aren't even acknowledging what author said about Tatsumaki and Mob. You aren't even willing to even acknowledge that Mob actually has almost 50-50(or maybe slight advantage to Tatsumaki) . You are simply "writing about your own world" to put it mildly.

I actually have proof of Mob coming back from "dead" state, about infinite powers from the ??? saga of mob psycho and few others to boot.

You making statements like Saitama having limitless power would be countered by me using similar statements about Mob's state. And don't you try to act smart by saying i am changing my stand, Wherever i have mentioned mob its clearly ??? Mob,no other version. Unless of course you revert to some selective reading and than claim something non-sensical that is again on you.

Okay few things before we go in,

All the arguments made in this thread were about ??? Mob and no other version.(not even 100%). There is no question about any of the numbered version when its been explicitly explained. Even with 100% Mob its more like 50-50 or Tatsumaki coming slightly on top.

Two, I am not worried about "tough-stands", what i am more worried about is when people don't let other even have an opinion. That's what i don't like. Other than that usually i don't take offense easily.

Coming back to debate, Mob has dealt with "blackhole like kinesis/ability", In season 1. So you are not proving anything by saying Mob cannot deal with "black holes". And that is assuming Mob can pushed to unconscious level by Geruyuanshoop. I would say Serious mob could hold his own just like Tatsumaki.

In season- 2 Mob came back from dead state thanks to ??? state, Another Psychic Ghost managed to trap him in a mirage world, demoralize him and tries to steal his powers. Guess what Mob found out, but couldn't win in conscious state. Than the Dread of Mob Psycho was out... Rest is history they say.

Except those argument doesn't work on unconscious. In fact you even choose really bad franchise to prove your point. Even In dragonball mastery over subconscious is treated as Super God like state Ultra Instinct.

You don't need to explain something which you haven't read but i will tell you very simply you are wrong about Serious mob being same as ??? Mob. Serious mob has lost quite a few fights before he turns into his unconscious state. They even have a complete arc showcasing this difference and reason for existence of ??? state. This is only showing more and more how you haven't read MobPsycho 100.

And to Boot it all up, what are you basing Tatsumaki on? Defeating a few "weak dragons" the ones Saitama kills with normal punch? I am yet to see any strong monster being defeated by Tatsumaki. I mean some definite threat, not the ones which trash Genos easily.(no offense to Genos fans).

Finally coming to my moronic claim about Experience not giving any advantage

over unconscious, think about it which is more crucial to our living? Unconscious or Conscious. Our Unconscious does lot more than what we give credit for which are essential for our survival. Do you really think Conscious brain could ever beat Unconscious one? unconscious brain does activities required for survival almost infinite number of times to gain that mastery throughout the lifetime. Any action taken by subconscious are mastery of lifetime. So yes i would put "experience" of Unconscious over conscious brain.

Coming to my Saitama claim, I think so you should re read. What i said is Mob ??? state is same as what Saitama is to OPM. Thus calling them in same league, In fact that energy absorption should pose a threat to Saitama. But still i think so he would "win". And Yes ??? Mob's powers were stated to be limitless so if you are trying to make arguments that Saitama's powers are infinite and try to downplay it from there its a bad idea.