Thread:SuperAPM/@comment-1.36.121.70-20170825132432

Hey I read your post about Goku not being able to destroy a star, and I think some of your points were kinda flawed.

First off, the power level needed to destroy a planet is not 500000. Piccolo managed to easily destroy the moon when he was just starting to train with gohan at the beginning of the saiyan saga. The earth has around 80 times more mass than the earth, and assuming piccolo has a power level of 500 at the time, the power level required to destroy a planet would be 40000. This would be a highball as Vegeta was stated to be able to destroy earth with his galack gun at significantly less power.

Now, the mass of the sun is about 330000 times the mass of the earth. The sun is your generic run in the mill around average sized star. Btw i hate people categorizing characters as planet level and star level, as some stars are tiny, especially if you include failed stars. Therefore energy required to destroy the sun would be 330000 x 40000= 13, 200, 000, 000.

Now, power scaling up to ssg is a pain in the ass, but i think i managed to do it off a tiny scrap of detail from goku in the battle of god's movie. There is a snippet where goku said that even if he and vegeta fused they would still not be able to beat beerus. Now, beerus was heavily suppressed and it's safe to say that beerus was significantly less suppressed when he fought ssg goku, so this would be a heavy low ball. Now, base vegito is at least 400 times base goku, as goku fought buuhan as ssj3 and lost badly. Ssj3's multiplier is 400, and since base vegito fared way way better against buuhan in base form, it's safe to say that base vegito at least equals ssj3 goku. Now, vegito most likely can power up all the way to ssj3. It's never stated that he can, but if their weak ass sons can do it they most likely can as well. So ssj3 vegito = 400 times ssj3 goku. Therefore, ssg is at least 160000 times base goku. I can't be bothered to figure out how strong ssb is so lets skip ahead to kaioken times 10. So goku's total multiplier is 1.6 mil.

Base goku ridiculously and i do mean ridiculously low balled would be 3000000. But since base goku easily toyed around with final form freeza in resurrection arc, it's safe to say his base form is over 100, 000, 000, and even this would kind of be a low ball. Copy Vegeta is shown to easily beat gotenks in base form. Vegeta = goku in power, and since gotenks is at least ssj3 level, goku's base might even be way higher.

But let's do the ultimate low ball and go with 3, 000, 000 as his base. 3mil x 1.6 mil is easily star (sun) level at the very least.

Also, I see you have based part of your argument over the fact that they could only destroy planets by making the "core collapse", which really does not make sense to me. They showed the destruction of the planet fair and square.  