Talk:Limiter/@comment-184.21.133.216-20180423152931/@comment-29947090-20180604055730

Me and the other guy agreed with everything that you said except the part about having to face and defeat an opponent with "the power of a God" that part made no sense. It's never really been stated anywhere that Saitama defeated an opponent with the power of a God and neither as Garou. The thing you said about Saitama facing one in his past life was just something you made up which is why he said it had no ground to stand on, no offense.

And when the other guy said that Saitama's strength isn't suppose to have an explanation and "he just is", pretty sure he meant that there's no other reason for Saitama being so strong. It's simple: Saitama trained hard with sheer will and effort and removed his limiter. That's all. There's nothing else asides from that until something canon pops up about it.

And for the reasons why characters such as Mumen Rider, Superalloy Darkshine, and Garou haven't removed their limiters. It's simple. Mumen Rider doesn't possess the same sense of will as Saitama and Garou. He doesn't believe he's strong enough to even join B-Class and doesn't really train. Not to mention, Saitama and Garou consistently pushed themselves to the brink of death. Mumen Rider may have the will to fight even when death is staring him in the eyes, but he doesn't do it as consistently as Saitama and Garou; he also hasn't even shown the same will to get stronger as them.

It's evident why Darkshine hasn't removed his limiter. He doesn't push himself to the brink of death nor does he have any will which is already evident and has been stated by Murata. All he did was lift weights and become strong. The second he was actually facing a challenging opponent (Garou) and he thought he might lose, he fainted from fear.

Garou DID almost remove his limiter. However, as he was breaking his limiter, he ended up defeating Darkshine and laid down feeling disappointed with himself for still just being human and not the monster he wanted to be. He then transformed into Awakened Garou, a mysterious being. As Dr. Genus stated transforming into a monster gives you a new limiter so he ended up not removing it like Saitama and just placing a new (yet higher) limit on himself that he would have to reach. In the end, he lost his will after being defeated.