Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34072877-20171224223505/@comment-34417543-20180121065702

Ok so for people saying ui holy is stronger than ssb vegeta your wrong it's been stated in the anime goku doesn't have the necessary striking power to make kefla even flinch when his physical attacks did nothing while ssb kaioken or just ssb goku was able to damage her and I believe personally from all the training begets has done in his normal ssb state he is stronger than goku in ssb goku in ui is just insanely fast so you can't compare him to Saitama jiren can't be compared either sense there hasn't been a set scale to eithers power