Talk:Limiter/@comment-184.21.133.216-20180423152931/@comment-29947090-20180610140847

Well if the first guy believes that Saitama just got his powers for no reason at all then he's wrong. Saitama became strong because his sheer effort and willpower pushed him beyond his limits and removed his limiter. However, it's stated nor implied anywhere that Saitama fought a God so what you're saying it just a theory.

Saitama doesn't even know what a limiter is, but you're right about something. Garou lowered the goal before meeting it. When Saitama was training, his will was absolute. He had his goal of becoming a strong hero by sticking to his training no matter what. Garou, on the otherhand, wanted to create world peace, so instead of dealing with it appropiately, he decided defeating heroes would be the easier way to deal with the situation. After he defeated Darkshine, he felt as if he wasn't the monster that he wanted to be and was still limited by his human limits. Thus triggering his transformation.

The thing about Gyoro Gyoro's theory is that it's only succeeded once, and that all the monsters and people he chose had potential in his eyes. Not only that, but his theory is for turning someone into a true monster. Mumen Rider does not want to become a monster nor does he seem to have much potential. Based upon what Dr. Genus said, Saitama was the one who pushed himself beyond the brink and removed his limiter. He didn't just go out and "conquer" death, but he pushed himself to that point.