Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-75.142.99.93-20160607005127/@comment-27582597-20160629214133

Ryukama wrote: ryukame you miss something here. its not confirmed. cause the only one who said and hear that shockwave its supreme kai who have enchanted sense.'''It wasn't only Old Kai who said that. It was also Beerus, Whis and the narrator himself on numerous occasions. On top of the episode literally being named "The Universe Crumbles." Going by your reasoning Boros's attack isn't planet level since he was the only one who knew of its power.'''

'''-> you miss thing you bring. all people you said is have enchanted sense. and crumble its diferent from destroyed. crumble its can be mean only few part of half. not always mean all destroyed. and if that shockwave its that strong, why people in namek, or another planet not hear/ feel that shockwave?summary still not confirmed. as long is not confirmed you argument is invalid.'''

and in manga confirmed its not universe will be destroyed he said but he said universe in chaos or jeopardy. and in fight with golden frieza its confirmed in manga that exist even before anime its only galaxy level.

'''Dragon Ball Super's anime is superior to its manga canonwise. Plus if you want to go by manga Boros only said he'd destroy the surface in the manga. Planet was for anime.'''

'''-> first OPM have original manga. and in original manga boros not said he will destroy saitama along with planet surface, BUT he will erase saitama face along with this planet. so argument is invalid again. manga is stronger fact than anime no matter you said and no matter how far anime canon go. and original manga/light novel is stronger than manga. YOU NEED TO NOTE THAT.'''

and goku you said it show all his power or summary go all out. and in fight with berus who go serious alittle(but still not use power of destruction) goku almost lost and many times pushed back. and its just beruus with no purple aura. and like whis said berus still not using 100 %. and in fight you need to note that goku almost die few times cause few attacks that released by berus in that fight that have power that capable to destroy earth. and the last its when berus use sphere destruction and push goku nearly to the death. before finaly goku say give up.

'''The fact that Goku struggled against Beerus doesn't mean much when Beerus is a character who is decillions of times stronger than Saitama's current greatest feat of strength. And Beerus's main goal was to destroy Earth, not that it was only a planet busting attack. Even if Goku almost died to a planet destroying attack it'd be an insane inconsistency akin to Saitama losing to a mosquito, given that even in the Saiyan Saga Goku survived a planet destroying attack. '''

'''-> you miss is again. that feat is saitama do with alittle effort and its already have more power than planet explosion. think if he use same power in concusetive punch or two handed concusetive punch? and i never said saitama is unbeatable. he lose alot. with mosquito, with king(in game), and alot more.'''

'''Of course once again Saitama hasn't shown his fullest potential (and really neither has Goku since he could get new SSJ forms for all we know) So Saitama could become stronger in the future. But to answer the question the original poster asked we have to either wait until both series end or go by what is currently show. Going by currently shown it would have to be Goku no contest at all.'''

'''-> yeah but for your info saitama still never show his full power at all.so i will never said saitama is weaker than goku. in term punch power its clear saitama is stronger than even last goku form.'''

'''Note: you need to know even in timeline of original comic, saitama never show his full power. he never show any expresion like he do in dream battle.'''