Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-31724751-20170529101655/@comment-5956954-20170602075001

I want to quote you saying, "I would like to know your opinion about this. Do you agree?" I don't agree. Why am I being challenged?

Besides that (though granted, I have not watched these shows), I can take down that "no limit fallacy" with one word. Presentation.


 * Popeye destroying the moon isn't a sign of being near the level of Saitama.
 * Arale regularly destroying the Earth and Sun isn't a sign of being near Saitama (and is practically an evil-doing).
 * Zen-Oh is supposed to be God, not a parody character on deities.
 * The Eds destroying the sun isn't a sign of being near the level of Saitama.

Overall, it is how the author wants to present the characters, and Saitama, being the titular protagonist and a parody character on superheroes, is intended to be stronger than them, enough so to survive breathing in space without any consequences happening (so it's not a "red herring." Don't try to use those words since they can easily be attacked.). Popeye wasn't intended to be that overpowered joke character. Arale can probably be beaten by Goku. Zen-Oh is supposed to be God. The Eds are supposed to be a trio hungry for the taste of jawbreakers, Eddy leading the group to that satisfaction by scamming people of their money.

Also, to prove it is Murata's (the illustrator, not author) narration (the mistranslation I will prove later when I conduct more experts on Japanese though this is probably enough proof already), see the RAW version of the manga and webcomic, Viz's version, and the fanon translation for the manga and webcomic. Strange to see that only the raw manga and fanon translation of the RAW's message is there, especially when you said the "author himself", who is ONE, not Murata (who draws the manga), stated Saitama was hurt when in fact, it was a mistranslation all along of a message that is not actually supposed to be there.

Lastly, if you read the webcomic, Dr. Genus theorizes Saitama "breaking his limiter" which is the cause of his near immeasurable strength. This is proven true by two things. Number one: The existence of God, who can somehow bestow and revoke power from people when they choose to, and going by Dr. Genus' theory, Saitama had that limit before his training. Number two: An actual narrator comment by ONE on the webcomic for Garou against Superalloy Darkshine.


 * Raw
 * http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/fc2-imageviewer/1/71/10.jpg
 * http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/fc2-imageviewer/1/71/11.jpg
 * http://galaxyheavyblow.web.fc2.com/fc2-imageviewer/1/71/12.jpg


 * Fanon translation (No official translation but has multiple contributors instead of one)
 * http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/07/28/o/read51f4e2160da8a/img000010.jpg
 * http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/07/28/o/read51f4e2160da8a/img000011.jpg
 * http://img.bato.to/comics/2013/07/28/o/read51f4e2160da8a/img000012.jpg

Since the Japanese text is not in such a foreign font and bold, it can be translated using Google Translate, and this is what it reveals:


 * ガロウのリミッターが = Gallou's limiter (You can guess the rest now)

So yeah. That is what I call an author comment. The manga takes precedence over the webcomic, but the manga hasn't reached this part of the story yet, so this is legitimate and is "supposed" to be there. Anyways, yeah. Saitama broke his limiter and therefore has no limit (for now?).

Back to Goku now, it hasn't been said he has no limit or has a limit either. As I said before, he keeps reaching new limits as time goes on. To quote my last response, "this means a fight between the two characters will last just a little longer each encounter or otherwise last forever in a cycle similar to Shinryu vs Chaos."

So yeah. Overall, I still think Saitama is stronger because the story's canon wants to present Saitama in that light. Goku is instead supposed to be a dude like Saitama but has a foreseeable limit before he breaks his newly-reached limits. Just my opinion for these reasons.

That is all.