Talk:Limiter/@comment-184.21.133.216-20180423152931/@comment-184.63.224.229-20180608155206

The first guy that replied to me said " Saitama's not SUPPOSED to have an explanation for his powers. He just IS.". That's where I'm getting the "he gets his power for no where" from. I know the idea of the limiter exists, that's why I stated it in the first point. It just didn't make sense to me when considering garou, mumen, and darkshine at the time so I added the theory as to how Saitama got his powers which spawned the idea that you also have to defeat strong opponents in conjunction to strong training and willpower. I stated that garou didn't defeat a god, therefore, he was no match for saitama who did defeat a god.

I'm starting to agree with you more and more on the garou part because saitama does tell garou, after he beat him, that he "lowered the goal before he got there". That does aline with your point about him turning into a monster very well, although he does state that not about limiters, but about his goal to be a hero. But I still don't agree with you on mumen.

Going by what gyoro gyoro stated, you don't need to particularly train, just come close to dying or getting severly beaten. Training as a whole can get you stronger, but it does not break your limiter. Mumen does succumb to getting beaten a lot, although not dying.