Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34072877-20171224223505/@comment-112.207.253.103-20180120091748

Ok So, If we are to talk all about strength, no special powers or special advantages and special environments especially made for  that certain character. Its simple. Jiren nor Saitama would win since both series are all concentrated on showing powerful characters with no limits (Im pretty sure both authors of both series will confirm such, if not then show me evidence of your objection). Also a Universe Buster could mean different ways of busting the universe not just all on strength. If Im sure, infinite isnt a number and that is true and there are OTHER infinites that can surpass an infinite - Vsauce - How to count past infinity also if you've watched the vid, infinite means its a type of number. So with this, if we are to say infinite strength, there are still other infinite strengths that can overwhelm it INFINITELY. To be honest this thread is more like a useless one as we cannot predict which is stronger and whatnot not unless the Authors give a clear and understandable answers based on our evidence and calculations of infinites.

Wait... I just looked up the definitions of limitless and infinite. So if you search both of what the words mean it both says it has no "end"  but for Infinite, it talks about measurement and calculation, while limitless, means it has no boundary whatsoever. So in Retrospect, The Author ONE said Saitama's power is Limitless meaning no boundary but if he/she we're to say Saitama's power is Infinite then it means it cannot be calculated but does not mean it can be over powered. But For Jiren Im not sure what Toriyama would say but since the Series is based on "Limitless" power, then this proves that neither Jiren or Saitama would win  if they both we're to one on one fight with bare Strength, no ki related moves or whatsoever. Also lets end this thread here now so no one else would say "Oh Jiren is better.  NO, its Saitama"   Let's keep it at none would win if they were to fight.